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The Secret Lair 0012: Our Holocaust Room

Filed Under Books, Memoranda, Movies, Villainy 

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No, really.

[Insert obligatory announcement about sacking those responsible for the previous notes here.]

A word of warning: there is some very uncensored language in this episode. We usually try to keep it fairly clean (though we do have an “explicit” tag), but the potty-mouths runneth over a couple of times.

And now, the show notes.

The Secret Library

  • We discuss the graphic novel Shooting War by Anthony Lappé and Dan Goldman. Shooting War was suggested by Troy in our GoodReads group, and he has written a review as well.
  • Chris likes the word whinging.
  • We will eventually be discussing The Sky People by S.M. Stirling, but Mr. Newquist seems to have recovered some of the suppressed memories of our previous encounter and, as a result, has become rather evasive.1
  • We will also eventually be discussing Old Man’s War by John Scalzi. Though Scalzi and Sterling use many of the same words in their respective books, the ordering of those words is vastly different from one novel to the other, so we would strong suggest that you read them both to avoid confusion.

The Screening Room

  • Iron Man, was very entertaining and we both liked it. A lot.
    • The name of the doctor who helps Tony Stark build the original armor is Yinsen, and he was portrayed by Shaun Toub.
  • The Incredible Hulk appears to hearken back to the television series starring Bill Bixby and Lou Ferrigno. We’re both looking forward to it.
    • We both like Tim Roth (Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead), who plays Emil Blonsky.
  • Marvel is tying their superhero movies together in preparation for an Avengers movie. Go, Marvel, go!
  • Kris is really looking forward to Captain America: The First Avenger. I mean really looking forward to it. If you happen to be in the theater when he sees it for the first time, do not be surprised if he throws his panties at the screen.
  • We discuss the casting of X-Men Origins: Wolverine.
  • Other superhero movies on the horizon that we’re looking forward to: Hellboy II: The Golden Army and The Dark Knight.
  • Will there be a Thor movie? We’d watch it.
  • There was a fourth Indiana Jones movie. You may have heard of it. We have more than heard of it, we have seen it. Armed with this advantage, we feel comfortable discussing Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Pepsi and comparing it to the other three.
    • There is some degree of dissent in the Lair as to the relative merits of Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.
    • At one point, our in-studio audience can no longer hold her objections, so she gets all up in Chris’ grill.
  • The commentary tracks on the 3-disc special edition of Hellboy are very good; so says Kris.2
  • Kris recently saw Cube Zero and provides a brief, insightful, reasoned and well-supported opinion of the entire series.
  • Kris will soon watch In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale. Chris has already seen it. The cast is very intriguing. The very idea of Ray Liotta as a dark wizard boggles the mind.
  • Regarding Renaissance, Kris meant “motion-capture”, not “stop-motion”. Get it together, Johnson!
  • Chris saw Prince Caspian and provides a comparison to The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe.
  • Kris didn’t make it all the way through The Golden Compass, based on the first book of Phillip Pullman’s His Dark Materials series.
  • Chris did make it all the way through Revolver, starring Jason Statham and Ray Liotta, but it wasn’t quite what he expected.

Lairkeeping

  • Our theme music is “Skullcrusher Mountain” by Jonathan Coulton. Cleveland-area fans can see Mr. Coulton live at the Beachland Ballroom on Friday, 11 July 2008 at 7pm.
  • We welcome your feedback at The Secret Lair. Dot com. Such feedback may be submitted via electronic mail or our online contact form.
  • It would not kill you to visit our official community.3
  • Information and commentary on books we have discussed, may be in the process of discussing and will one day discuss is available at The Secret Library.
 
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  1. It has been suggested that the source of the delay is internal to The Secret Lair. Kris may or may not have failed to e-mail Mr. Newquist with the details of our recording schedule for the weekend, but that is entirely irrelevent. History will decide who is to blame. [↩]
  2. Keep in mind that this is a man who recently wished he had a womb so he could bear director Guillermo del Toro’s offspring. [↩]
  3. This statement has not been evaluated by the FDA, the AMA, or anyone who could reliably determine whether our official community is, in fact, capable of inducing death. [↩]

Comments

14 Responses to “The Secret Lair 0012: Our Holocaust Room”

  1. Vanamonde on June 18th, 2008 2:43 pm

    Thanks for changing the sound setup.

    I listen to podcasts on my SE K800i phone as I commute to work on a bus. There is a lot of background noise and even with volume on the phone maxed out I had problems hearing past episodes of TSL.

    Episode 12 I could hear without straining, thanks again.

  2. Kris on June 18th, 2008 3:41 pm

    You’re welcome, Vanamonde. I can’t guarantee that we will always use the mixer and microphones instead of the H2 (in fact, I can pretty much guarantee that we’ll be using the H2 in the near future), but we will try our damndest to make anything we record with the H2 as listen-to-able as possible.

  3. Troy on June 19th, 2008 5:05 pm

    Thanks for the shout out on recommending “Shooting War”. I have a brief review on Goodreads: http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/18614536

    I also just watched the original “Incredible Hulk” TV show pilot last weekend as prep for the new movie. You can stream the entire series on Netflix.

  4. David Mead on June 20th, 2008 9:53 am

    Another great episode! Glad to hear Kris is looking forward to the new Hellboy movie as much as I am.

    Wondering what the East/West coast dynamic will bring to future episodes.

  5. Kris on June 20th, 2008 12:25 pm

    Thanks, Troy. I’ve added a link to your review in the show notes.

    I saw several seasons of The Incredible Hulk television series for about $34 apiece at Best Buy a couple of days ago, and I was sorely tempted to grab the first season, but I snagged The Goonies and LEGO Indiana Jones (PC) instead.

  6. Kris on June 20th, 2008 12:26 pm

    Glad you enjoyed the episode, David. I suspect that our new East/West coast dynamic will involve a blood feud, as is usually the case with such things (or so I’m told).

  7. Chris on June 24th, 2008 6:29 am

    Naturally. I believe that will involve the busting of caps in asses, etc, etc. All good, clean fun.

  8. Kris on June 24th, 2008 9:09 am

    Chris may be busting caps in asses, but I intend to pop caps in asses. Or maybe it’s the other way around. My point is that we do things differently here on the East Coast.

  9. Walter on June 27th, 2008 12:56 pm

    Hi, new to the show (this is my first episode). Looking forward to hearing some more. One thing, I really disagree with the idea that the terrorists in Iron Man were arbitrary. First off, they were laying the groundwork for the 10 Rings = Mandarin in future films. Plus, it’s Stark’s kidnapping by the terrorists that sets off the rest of the movie’s events. It’s the terrorists stockpiling of Stark weapons that set him off on the path to create the Iron Man armor and fight against his hardware getting into the wrong hands. I really didn’t see them as arbitrary. Just my 2-cents.

  10. Kris on June 30th, 2008 7:01 pm

    Thanks for the comment, Walter. You raise some very good points regarding the villains in Iron Man. Take that, Miller!

  11. Chris on June 30th, 2008 8:27 pm

    I had not considered the Mandarin, angle, Walter. Good catch on that. I will have to re-watch the movie (Oh, twist my arm) and take that into consideration.

  12. P.G. Holyfield on July 3rd, 2008 11:01 am

    Ah, that was nice listening… a ‘bust on Holyfield sandwich’ at the beginning and end of the episode. I’m so glad you are moving, Miller… that’s about as smart as Hitler invading Russia. Splitting your forces only makes this easier for me.

    And as for your ninja, Johnson… luckily I was at the grocery store listening to the episode… Cannonball spotted him sneaking up on me and pegged him with her sippy cup. I made short work of him after that, although the blood on the cereal isle was hard to hide… had to improvise with boxes of Lucky Charms and some Quaker Oats.

    I really didn’t like Indy 4 very much, other than some of the nostalgia moments you spoke of during your show. I thought the script had issues, and probably some of the choices made during the filming/editing compounded those issues. There is a great blog post about some of those writing issues (do a search on the 50 issues with Indy 4 and I’m sure it’ll come up).

  13. P.G. Holyfield on July 3rd, 2008 9:59 pm

    By the way, I agree with Kris and his assessment of Iron Man as the best superhero movie ever. Of course, I’m the man that REALLY liked Daredevil, so I’m probably not the best judge of these things.

  14. Kris on July 6th, 2008 12:43 pm

    That’s right, Holyfiend: get cocky; get overconfident. You’re being played like grandpappy’s fiddle at the annual hoedown.

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