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		<title>Comment on Episode 0031: Free Content vs. Paying the Creator by Scott Roche</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Roche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great podcast guys! I&#039;ve been in the process over the last few weeks of a) figuring out who I want to stop leeching off of and pay and b) figuring out how to get some money for what I put out.  

You&#039;re absolutely right that podcasting shouldn&#039;t be the only tool.  If it is then you start to think that everything should be podcasted and it shouldn&#039;t.  And even if it is that doesn&#039;t mean that that&#039;s the only format you can put it out in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great podcast guys! I&#8217;ve been in the process over the last few weeks of a) figuring out who I want to stop leeching off of and pay and b) figuring out how to get some money for what I put out.  </p>
<p>You&#8217;re absolutely right that podcasting shouldn&#8217;t be the only tool.  If it is then you start to think that everything should be podcasted and it shouldn&#8217;t.  And even if it is that doesn&#8217;t mean that that&#8217;s the only format you can put it out in.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Episode 0031: Free Content vs. Paying the Creator by Richard Green aka Mainframe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Green aka Mainframe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EXCELLENT discussion!!  I&#039;m one of those consumers of podcast fiction that 1) bought several books from podcast authors 2) has donated on podiobooks.com a few times 3) has a small monthly donation set up for Decoder Ring Theatre &amp; 4) freeloads a lot of other podcast fiction.  I try to be a good fan and plug podcast fiction I enjoy.  I&#039;ve given feedback, at least on Twitter, for almost all of the podiobooks I&#039;ve listened to.  I still don&#039;t think I&#039;ve done enough, but if all podiobooks fans were like me I&#039;m sure more of them could quit their other day jobs.  This year, my plan is to do more.

I&#039;ve bought a few copies of J.C.&#039;s books &amp; made a small donation on podiobooks.  As one of those fans who have put up some cash, my word for him is - to do in his career whatever he feels is best. First off, he is the one who has to live his life, and I hope he is fulfilled in the choices he makes.  Second, I hope very much to be able to enjoy his work in the future &amp; he does not &quot;owe&quot; me any additional free work.  Anything he chooses to do for free, I&#039;ll appreciate, but I certainly don&#039;t have a &quot;right&quot; to any more freebies from Hutch.

And I feel the same about the rest of the podiobook authors I am a fan of.  I&#039;ll send money when I can, but events during this first quarter of 2010 have highlighted for me that I feel that I need to do a bit more to help promote this media, if I&#039;m going to continue to enjoy &quot;free to me&quot; podcast fiction.

Oh and to anyone out there who may read this who is, has, or is going to put free content out there on the internet for people like me to enjoy - Thanks so very much!
 
I really appreciate your comments on the podcast.  You guys rock :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EXCELLENT discussion!!  I&#8217;m one of those consumers of podcast fiction that 1) bought several books from podcast authors 2) has donated on podiobooks.com a few times 3) has a small monthly donation set up for Decoder Ring Theatre &amp; 4) freeloads a lot of other podcast fiction.  I try to be a good fan and plug podcast fiction I enjoy.  I&#8217;ve given feedback, at least on Twitter, for almost all of the podiobooks I&#8217;ve listened to.  I still don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve done enough, but if all podiobooks fans were like me I&#8217;m sure more of them could quit their other day jobs.  This year, my plan is to do more.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve bought a few copies of J.C.&#8217;s books &amp; made a small donation on podiobooks.  As one of those fans who have put up some cash, my word for him is &#8211; to do in his career whatever he feels is best. First off, he is the one who has to live his life, and I hope he is fulfilled in the choices he makes.  Second, I hope very much to be able to enjoy his work in the future &amp; he does not &#8220;owe&#8221; me any additional free work.  Anything he chooses to do for free, I&#8217;ll appreciate, but I certainly don&#8217;t have a &#8220;right&#8221; to any more freebies from Hutch.</p>
<p>And I feel the same about the rest of the podiobook authors I am a fan of.  I&#8217;ll send money when I can, but events during this first quarter of 2010 have highlighted for me that I feel that I need to do a bit more to help promote this media, if I&#8217;m going to continue to enjoy &#8220;free to me&#8221; podcast fiction.</p>
<p>Oh and to anyone out there who may read this who is, has, or is going to put free content out there on the internet for people like me to enjoy &#8211; Thanks so very much!</p>
<p>I really appreciate your comments on the podcast.  You guys rock <img src='http://www.thesecretlair.com/main/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Episode 0031: Free Content vs. Paying the Creator by Sonitotum Bonus: Matthew Wayne Selznick On The Secret Lair &#124; Matthew Wayne Selznick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonitotum Bonus: Matthew Wayne Selznick On The Secret Lair &#124; Matthew Wayne Selznick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 06:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] dinner a few nights back when Chris Miller pinged me on Skype &#8212; would I like to be a guest on the Secret Lair podcast, like, right [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Episode 0031: Free Content vs. Paying the Creator by JJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I may have missed it, but I didn&#039;t hear anybody talk about philanthropic reasons for producing free content. Yes, even these sorts of operations need to be funded in some way, but maybe it&#039;s not a big deal because the creative output is intended to be free from the beginning, no strings attached.

The idea of producing free content has been on my mind for a while now, and I really appreciated all the points of view presented in the podcast. What I got out of the discussion was &quot;wait and see&quot; and &quot;do what you think is best for you to do&quot;.

Thanks for the good food for thought Thomas, Matthew, Chris &amp; KJ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may have missed it, but I didn&#8217;t hear anybody talk about philanthropic reasons for producing free content. Yes, even these sorts of operations need to be funded in some way, but maybe it&#8217;s not a big deal because the creative output is intended to be free from the beginning, no strings attached.</p>
<p>The idea of producing free content has been on my mind for a while now, and I really appreciated all the points of view presented in the podcast. What I got out of the discussion was &#8220;wait and see&#8221; and &#8220;do what you think is best for you to do&#8221;.</p>
<p>Thanks for the good food for thought Thomas, Matthew, Chris &amp; KJ.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Episode 0031: Free Content vs. Paying the Creator by ceejaydp</title>
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		<dc:creator>ceejaydp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 04:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is really such an excellent discussion. i work with creative persons looking into podcasting and social media as a way of building audience. while i am generally very pro-&quot;free content&quot;, i am pointing a lot of my clients here. they need to realize there are pros AND cons.

generally, i pay for the content i&#039;ve received. i have to point out that many of the books i&#039;ve bought this past year or two i wouldn&#039;t have glanced at in the bookstores if i hadn&#039;t been introduced to the authors online. it is so exciting to have the chance to preview a book before i lay out the cash, and very gratifying that most of the authors i had never heard of before podiobooks/podcasting are the top echelon of the creative community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is really such an excellent discussion. i work with creative persons looking into podcasting and social media as a way of building audience. while i am generally very pro-&#8221;free content&#8221;, i am pointing a lot of my clients here. they need to realize there are pros AND cons.</p>
<p>generally, i pay for the content i&#8217;ve received. i have to point out that many of the books i&#8217;ve bought this past year or two i wouldn&#8217;t have glanced at in the bookstores if i hadn&#8217;t been introduced to the authors online. it is so exciting to have the chance to preview a book before i lay out the cash, and very gratifying that most of the authors i had never heard of before podiobooks/podcasting are the top echelon of the creative community.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Episode 0031: Free Content vs. Paying the Creator by Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 02:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that Baen Books has the right idea - they put up some of the older works of their authors up for free.  This has turned me on to several authors such as John Ringo and Eric Flint and directly lead to purchasing at least a dozen hardcopies of their various works. Podiobooks has served the same purpose - I own both Contagious and 7th Son. The same thing holds true for music - many times I browse freely available music then buy the discs or downloads if I like the music.  Blackmores Night and Nox Arcana are recent examples.

As a professional artist I think that releasing your prior work for free (while maintaining copyright) after a period of time isn&#039;t a bad idea.  I also like the freemium model - giving a taste of what&#039;s available by releasing old or limited content and charging for access to the rest.

There doesn&#039;t seem to be a universal model that works for everyone. Now is a time of tremendous upheaval in the creative media and there is tremendous monetary pressure on all creative endeavors. JC Hutchins seems to have changed tack, trying to find a method that works for him. I wish him luck and hope for his ultimate success.  I also look forward to buying another book of his sometime soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that Baen Books has the right idea &#8211; they put up some of the older works of their authors up for free.  This has turned me on to several authors such as John Ringo and Eric Flint and directly lead to purchasing at least a dozen hardcopies of their various works. Podiobooks has served the same purpose &#8211; I own both Contagious and 7th Son. The same thing holds true for music &#8211; many times I browse freely available music then buy the discs or downloads if I like the music.  Blackmores Night and Nox Arcana are recent examples.</p>
<p>As a professional artist I think that releasing your prior work for free (while maintaining copyright) after a period of time isn&#8217;t a bad idea.  I also like the freemium model &#8211; giving a taste of what&#8217;s available by releasing old or limited content and charging for access to the rest.</p>
<p>There doesn&#8217;t seem to be a universal model that works for everyone. Now is a time of tremendous upheaval in the creative media and there is tremendous monetary pressure on all creative endeavors. JC Hutchins seems to have changed tack, trying to find a method that works for him. I wish him luck and hope for his ultimate success.  I also look forward to buying another book of his sometime soon.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Episode 0031: Free Content vs. Paying the Creator by Mike Luoma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Luoma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 23:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, don&#039;t misunderstand me Chris... I do wish more of the people listening to my books felt like you do!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, don&#8217;t misunderstand me Chris&#8230; I do wish more of the people listening to my books felt like you do!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bring on the Bad Science! by Wesley Clifford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wesley Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 21:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I said I won&#039;t rehash anything said on Twitter. I&#039;ll just link to http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/07/local/la-me-shark7-2010mar07 and rethink that whole Shark/Squid movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I said I won&#8217;t rehash anything said on Twitter. I&#8217;ll just link to <a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/07/local/la-me-shark7-2010mar07" rel="nofollow">http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/07/local/la-me-shark7-2010mar07</a> and rethink that whole Shark/Squid movie.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Episode 0031: Free Content vs. Paying the Creator by Chris Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 19:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,

First off, thanks for all the kind words about the episode. It&#039;s gratifying to know that people are listening, and that we do occasionally say something worth listening to. In all seriousness, thanks for taking the time to tune in.

About leeches...I consider the current state of community as one in dire need of a wake-up call, especially the fans.  I completely understand that there is a tightening of belts, and that not everyone can afford to give. And I do agree that fans who actually help get the word out about a project are providing a service which is valuable to an author.  My beef comes with the folks who plead lack of funds but then tweet about buying the latest iPhone, or how many conventions they are going to, or buying the latest XBox game, etc, etc. These are, IMHO, the leeches. Surely the authors and content creators we enjoy are worth at least the price of two Starbucks coffees? At least a one-time donation, but more fittingly, perhaps on a monthly basis? That&#039;s the  only real way to sustain the creativity we treasure so much. 

Good example: Thomas Gideon puts out about 100 episodes a year. These podcasts contain some of the most interesting commentary on tech news which I have found in audio format on the Internet. I&#039;ve set up a recurring $5 monthly donation to him because, at the end of the day, I actually value the 8 episodes I get from him a month more than the two coffees I&#039;ll miss out on. I should probably give more, in fact, but for now, this is what I can afford out my mad money.

If people really enjoy a work, they should donate something to help the creator. It&#039;s only fair.</description>
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<p>First off, thanks for all the kind words about the episode. It&#8217;s gratifying to know that people are listening, and that we do occasionally say something worth listening to. In all seriousness, thanks for taking the time to tune in.</p>
<p>About leeches&#8230;I consider the current state of community as one in dire need of a wake-up call, especially the fans.  I completely understand that there is a tightening of belts, and that not everyone can afford to give. And I do agree that fans who actually help get the word out about a project are providing a service which is valuable to an author.  My beef comes with the folks who plead lack of funds but then tweet about buying the latest iPhone, or how many conventions they are going to, or buying the latest XBox game, etc, etc. These are, IMHO, the leeches. Surely the authors and content creators we enjoy are worth at least the price of two Starbucks coffees? At least a one-time donation, but more fittingly, perhaps on a monthly basis? That&#8217;s the  only real way to sustain the creativity we treasure so much. </p>
<p>Good example: Thomas Gideon puts out about 100 episodes a year. These podcasts contain some of the most interesting commentary on tech news which I have found in audio format on the Internet. I&#8217;ve set up a recurring $5 monthly donation to him because, at the end of the day, I actually value the 8 episodes I get from him a month more than the two coffees I&#8217;ll miss out on. I should probably give more, in fact, but for now, this is what I can afford out my mad money.</p>
<p>If people really enjoy a work, they should donate something to help the creator. It&#8217;s only fair.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bring on the Bad Science! by Kris Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kris Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 18:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thesecretlair.com/main/2010/02/24/bring-on-the-bad-science/comment-page-1/#comment-2714&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Miscellaneous G&lt;/a&gt; — We&#039;re glad cooler heads appear to have prevailed.</description>
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